Comments on: No new Munros, but one demotion http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/2009/09/no-new-munros-but-one-demotion/ The Wilderness World of Cameron McNeish Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:19:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Gibson McGeachie http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/2009/09/no-new-munros-but-one-demotion/#comment-4358 Gibson McGeachie Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:34:09 +0000 http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/?p=412#comment-4358 Anyone wishing to gain a historical perspective on the changes that have taken place to The Tables since they were first published in 1891, in the SMC Journal, should buy or borrow 'The Munroist's Companion', an anthology compiled and edited by Robin N Campbell of the SMC. There is much of interest here and it contains Campbell's account of Munro's 'Posthumous Completion' (Campbell does not use 'Compleation')of his round in July 1992. Those present at the dinner in Edinburgh in 1991 to celebrate the Centenary of the Tables will remember his hilarious talk. Those dismayed by the current revisions might also take heart from the fact that as at 1999 (the book's publication date) "..178 tops have been introduced, deleted, promoted or demoted since 1891" The game goes on.....but maybe the worst is over. Anyone wishing to gain a historical perspective on the changes that have taken place to The Tables since they were first published in 1891, in the SMC Journal, should buy or borrow ‘The Munroist’s Companion’, an anthology compiled and edited by Robin N Campbell of the SMC.

There is much of interest here and it contains Campbell’s account of Munro’s ‘Posthumous Completion’ (Campbell does not use ‘Compleation’)of his round in July 1992. Those present at the dinner in Edinburgh in 1991 to celebrate the Centenary of the Tables will remember his hilarious talk.

Those dismayed by the current revisions might also take heart from the fact that as at 1999 (the book’s publication date) “..178 tops have been introduced, deleted, promoted or demoted since 1891″ The game goes on…..but maybe the worst is over.

]]> By: Gibson McGeachie http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/2009/09/no-new-munros-but-one-demotion/#comment-4350 Gibson McGeachie Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:51:09 +0000 http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/?p=412#comment-4350 "I can’t believe that one of the few ‘munros’ that I have actually ascended has been demoted!" Hi Anna, Whether it's SMC revisions or Munro Society surveys, your recent experience is likely to be repeated several times during your Munro years! No matter though, you'll still have had great days on the hill. Gibson “I can’t believe that one of the few ‘munros’ that I have actually ascended has been demoted!”

Hi Anna,

Whether it’s SMC revisions or Munro Society surveys, your recent experience is likely to be repeated several times during your Munro years!
No matter though, you’ll still have had great days on the hill.

Gibson

]]> By: cameron http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/2009/09/no-new-munros-but-one-demotion/#comment-4346 cameron Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:57:40 +0000 http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/?p=412#comment-4346 Anna, Lovely to hear from you. At least that's a Corbett you've climbed! Martin, I hardly think there will be a rush to update and republish guidebooks on the basis of one Munro deletion. I know in my own case it will merely be a hassle. I agree with Chris' summation but surely these are the reasons the vast majority of Munro-baggers climb hills. :) Anna,
Lovely to hear from you. At least that’s a Corbett you’ve climbed!

Martin,
I hardly think there will be a rush to update and republish guidebooks on the basis of one Munro deletion. I know in my own case it will merely be a hassle. I agree with Chris’ summation but surely these are the reasons the vast majority of Munro-baggers climb hills. :)

]]> By: Martin Rye http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/2009/09/no-new-munros-but-one-demotion/#comment-4342 Martin Rye Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:25:57 +0000 http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/?p=412#comment-4342 "I’m sure your cynicism is tongue-in-cheek Martin. The Munro Society has no axe to grind, no books to sell, no money to make." Tongue-in-cheek yes and I agree the Munro Society is not out to make money. But be assured others will rush no doubt with updated books and revised guides. I like Chris with his summing up today with.. "But ticking off the hills should only be the superficial reason for climbing them. Exploration, beauty, adventure, nature, wildness, freedom are all far, far more important" “I’m sure your cynicism is tongue-in-cheek Martin. The Munro Society has no axe to grind, no books to sell, no money to make.”

Tongue-in-cheek yes and I agree the Munro Society is not out to make money. But be assured others will rush no doubt with updated books and revised guides.

I like Chris with his summing up today with.. “But ticking off the hills should only be the superficial reason for climbing them. Exploration, beauty, adventure, nature, wildness, freedom are all far, far more important”

]]> By: Anna Douglas http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/2009/09/no-new-munros-but-one-demotion/#comment-4340 Anna Douglas Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:17:09 +0000 http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/?p=412#comment-4340 Hi Cameron, I can't believe that one of the few 'munros' that I hve actually ascended has been demoted! How demotivating!!! Never mind, at least I still have 270 others to try!!! Anna Hi Cameron,
I can’t believe that one of the few ‘munros’ that I hve actually ascended has been demoted! How demotivating!!! Never mind, at least I still have 270 others to try!!!
Anna

]]> By: cameron http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/2009/09/no-new-munros-but-one-demotion/#comment-4339 cameron Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:44:24 +0000 http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/?p=412#comment-4339 Craig, I don't think the Munro Society have expressly publicised how much it costs them to survey the hills but they have given credit to one of their members, Clem Clements, who funded two of the expeditions. The Society says it will tackle more surveys as funds become available. Craig,
I don’t think the Munro Society have expressly publicised how much it costs them to survey the hills but they have given credit to one of their members, Clem Clements, who funded two of the expeditions. The Society says it will tackle more surveys as funds become available.

]]> By: Craig Cocker http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/2009/09/no-new-munros-but-one-demotion/#comment-4336 Craig Cocker Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:53:57 +0000 http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/?p=412#comment-4336 Out of interest, have the Munro Society publicised the cost of surveying these 4 mountains? I find it remarkable in these days of GPS and satellite imagery that we'd need to plonk 3 people on the summit for hours on end to take these measurements. Being more than halfway through my own Round I'd be keen to understand the full extent of any possible future changes to the Tables! Out of interest, have the Munro Society publicised the cost of surveying these 4 mountains? I find it remarkable in these days of GPS and satellite imagery that we’d need to plonk 3 people on the summit for hours on end to take these measurements. Being more than halfway through my own Round I’d be keen to understand the full extent of any possible future changes to the Tables!

]]> By: Gibson McGeachie http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/2009/09/no-new-munros-but-one-demotion/#comment-4333 Gibson McGeachie Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:02:22 +0000 http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/?p=412#comment-4333 I'm not sure why you should be disappointed that Sgurr nan Ceannaichean has become a Corbett Cameron. Being Munro status doesn't confer any superiority over lower hills, Corbetts or otherwise, and I'll be surprised if you disagree with that! Like you though, and for the same reasons, I'm glad that Sgurr a' Choire-Bheithe retains Corbett status. I’m not sure why you should be disappointed that Sgurr nan Ceannaichean has become a Corbett Cameron. Being Munro status doesn’t confer any superiority over lower hills, Corbetts or otherwise, and I’ll be surprised if you disagree with that! Like you though, and for the same reasons, I’m glad that Sgurr a’ Choire-Bheithe retains Corbett status.

]]> By: cameron http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/2009/09/no-new-munros-but-one-demotion/#comment-4330 cameron Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:17:27 +0000 http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/?p=412#comment-4330 I'm sure your cynicism is tongue-in-cheek Martin. The Munro Society has no axe to grind, no books to sell, no money to make. Indeed, it's only been by the generosity of one of their members that they've been able to afford to re-survey these hills. I’m sure your cynicism is tongue-in-cheek Martin. The Munro Society has no axe to grind, no books to sell, no money to make. Indeed, it’s only been by the generosity of one of their members that they’ve been able to afford to re-survey these hills.

]]> By: Martin Rye http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/2009/09/no-new-munros-but-one-demotion/#comment-4329 Martin Rye Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:24:34 +0000 http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/?p=412#comment-4329 Surprise there are more to re-survey, tables to be revised yet again. More books to re-sell and maps to. Money is in them hills. Surprise there are more to re-survey, tables to be revised yet again. More books to re-sell and maps to. Money is in them hills.

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